old school :) lucasarts was better for my taste :)
Actually, you can complete Maniac Mansion with any set of characters. The only character whose ability doesn't contribute to beating the game is Jeff, so you're required to have at least one kid who can get you past Purple Tentacle somehow. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of unwinnable states, but the start of the game has none of them. In fact, I think you need at least the silver key to reach such a state unless you feel like waiting for the package to arrive.
Hey why does number one have #3 there???
My first adventure game was Monkey Island 2 (yes, I started with the best one!). With the only exception of Kyrandia 1 & 2, I only played Lucasart adventures. I've always found them better than Sierra and the others, for story, gameplay and graphics.
Great video but its alittle unfortunate you were only into Sierra and Lucas Arts as there is so many other great games. To be fair, though, I think you got some of the hardest in there, although there is more then you mentioned.
Some good mentions though (just to tickle the nostalgia bone or mention it if you havent played):
7th Guest
Phantasmagoria
Toonstruck
Full Throttle
The Dig (really? you didnt think this was harder then maniac Mansion? Ok, fair enough)
Shivers
Sanitarium
Burn: Cycle (this game is really really hard and its timed, took me forever as a kid to beat it)
JMAN Project
Frankenstein Through the eyes of the Monster
Mummy Tomb of the Pharoah
Blade Runner
Oddworld
The Neverhood
Zero Critical (if 1998 counts, although I was a teen by then)
Theres more but you get the idea.
Sorry, I dont mean to come off egotistical here; I just love adventure games. Its my favorite genre =P
I always found the first Kyrandia to be as hard as elephant poop.
yup Toonstruck wasn't so easy to.
As Nidoking points out, you can't actually start Maniac Mansion in an unwinnable state. Though Wendy, Syd, and Razor all end up useless if you fail to intercept and get the uncanceled stamps from Weird Ed's package. First time players should take Bernard and Michael to maximize the number of possible solutions and minimize dead ends.
Spoiler warning...
I expected "King's Quest V" to be near or at the top of the list. Though all of the KQ's were vicious, it was V that made you have to figure out, with no hints, that you need to enter the Dark Forest with an exact combination of items (amulet, bottle, and honeycomb); use the bottle to trick the witch; raid her house, searching the whole place for items, including in a vague-looking object that looked like part of the background; and then bait the creatures with glowing eyes in the backdrop of one part of the forest by squeezing honey out of the comb and dropping emeralds onto it three times to get a rock in the background to reveal itself as a giant snail-like monster and move out of your way. Not to mention that there are no hints that fucking CHEESE is the fuel for the wand-powering machine. The single most batshit insane counter-intuitive juxtaposition of the item to use and what to use it on and when in gaming history, and the only way you can figure it out is by blindly stumbling upon it through trial and error--under a very strict timer.
By the by, how DO you pronounce "Mannanan"? LordKat says MAN-uh-NAN, the narrator in Part VI says MAN-uh-nun, and the voice actors in Part V say muh-NAN-un. I'm confused.
Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis also had the "branching path, but end in the same spot" feature. It did add some replayability.
Those are some really good games. And most of them really really difficult..
But for me the most difficult game I have played is KGB. You should try it.
Here are some hints to get you started:
- Pay close attention to dialogue and take notes. Especially write down every new name you hear. Some of the names could be deliberately fake.
- Be careful when talking to people. Usually there are more options than necessary.
- Save frequently and in different slots. This game can become unwinnable.
- Most items are junk. They are not used to solve any puzzles and no one cares of you take them.
- If you need to meet someone at a certain time, make a note about it. People don't like it when you miss a meating..
It sounds already a great game, doesn't it?
jutuomin brought up the same game that I was going to - KGB Conspiracy. I recommended the game to Paw. Trust me on this one, LordKaT, it really is the hardest adventure game of all time. If you don't believe me, try beating the first CHAPTER without the walkthrough.
Have you ever played "5 days" or "7 days". Two of my favourite adventure games.
Speaking of KGB, I should also mention that in this game there is a point where you can actually get savagely RAPED AND TORTURED for an underground SNUFF movie, I kid you not, for the crime of missing to flush a packet of coke a few scenes back, I believe. And no, you don't get to go back and rectify it (unless you load a previous save), if you failed to do this, you're FUCKED, literally, and then murdered on camera, although luckily this happens off screen and you only get to read it as text, but when they say something like "you beg for the merciful release of death"... WTF game? WTF??? I realize that this was supposed to be a gritty, realistic game where you can find yourself in a variety of unpleasant (but not impossible) situations in the final days of the Soviet Union, but... when I played this game as a kid, it seriously unnerved me. And it looked like just another adventure game about spies! But no my friends, this game is HARDCORE, and IMHO way more disturbing and brutal than, say, Mortal Kombat, which got all the hype back in the day. And the rape/murder scene isn't the end of it, you can get yourself brutally killed at the drop of a hat, for instance, getting chewed up by an attack dog, again with a graphic description of it ripping your ear off and your warm blood gushing, or shot in the head by a sniper upon exiting the hotel for failing to notice and solve a retardedly convoluted puzzle involving bathroom tiles. This is a game that serves as a true case in point for that old gaming catchphrase: "Save early, save often."
Please also review: blaster master 2, mad max, 7th saga and eye of the beholder. All really hard.
Dear God... Myst...
I know you didn't put it on the list, but I played it. Once.
I will tell you one thing:
I never got out of the first room.
I kid you not, I was playing all sorts of computer games, and I gave Myst a shot out of curiosity and I spent an hour trying to get out of the first room or level. I can't remember which. It was so horrendously frustrating I never played it again.
Old article I know but I revisited this video upon taking a newfound interest in adventure games and found this in the search engine:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/lordkats-until-we-win-t...
lol people saying you shouldn't reproduce and a "faggot" and "retard" because your choices weren't obscure/difficult enough. This is what 4chan and fetal alcohol does to the brain, and why nobody takes video games/video game culture seriously as art but as the hobby of angry, uneducated and over-entitled manchildren who will die alone.
